Foxy's Capital FM Radio Interview
Capital FM Radio, interview with George Michael, broadcasted on July 12th, 2002
Special THANX to Sasha !!!

Foxy: You never thought that you would end up in this position.
George: Well, you know. Hello, by the way.
Foxy: Hello, and good morning to you.
George: I sound normal in here. (____?____) I don’t know how much more controversial I’ve become. I think life around me and the media has become a lot more reactionary, when it comes to anything that’s controversial. When you think about it, the first thing that I ever released is about the idea of taking on the dole and ripping off the government. So, you know, I think that things have changed, not necessarily for the best of it, it makes being outspoken about anything sound a bit louder than it would have done about 20 years ago when I first started.
Foxy: I never imagined you, or think of you as someone who was trying to be controversial. Obviously it follows you around, and that’s the way that you lead your life, or because of the status you have.
George: I think there’s a combination of things. I think there’s one, absolutely for some reason, it does seem to give some edge to things. The fact that people know that I am gay now. But, other than that, I’d love people to understand. I’m not trying to be contentious, I’m just trying to write about different things. You know, internet porn, and late night sex on TV was what I wrote Freeek about. And, because I started writing in the third person, about subjects that are not about me, people, well I think people had a hard time adjusting to it. People thought that Freeek was some kind of representation of me as a sexual entity, which would have been a pretty scary thing. But, it really wasn’t. Unfortunately, because I’ve written so many things in the first person, and about my own experiences, when I try and branch out a little bit. I think sometimes it’s hard to make people understand.
Foxy: Sure. Let’s get this song on, okay. I find it a very entertaining pop song, and I find the video thoroughly entertaining.
George: Well, it’s funny, isn’t it?
Foxy: Yeah, it is. I think the way you poke fun of yourself, at all your little sort of you’s through the years, and I think it’s very good indeed. I think people have sort of lost all of that. They are oblivious to that.
George: They don't care. They've just read the press.
Foxy: People have never even seen the video, they've just seen the clips that they show on the telly.
George: I think they should see it and have a laugh.
SHOOT THE DOG

Foxy: I like that one part where you have, that sample in the video, (____?____) with the long hair, with the queen. I like that.
George: A couple of people on the fan site asked if that would be my new look. Obviously they don’t know anything about (____?_____) He was probably long before they were born.
Foxy: But it’s a good pop song.
George: But it came into so much stick, so early on. I think before people ever even heard it. And I've got to say that it came into so much stick from the Sun.
Foxy: What had you done? Because you really pissed them off for something....
George: Well, obviously, the point where, the Sun is obviously this huge competition to the Daily Mirror. The Daily Mirror happened to be one of the two papers that, I mean, to be honest, I see the Mirror as the lesser of two evils, bet there’s no question that there was some writings, (sounds like Pierce Moore but my instinct tells me he said "John Pilger") was writing some ambiguous stuff about the world post on Sept. 11, and I agreed with him. And it was really interesting to me that a major newspaper could be writing something moving against the tides as it were, so strongly and really that the world of television and radio wasn’t picking up on it. And the guys at 2DTV, the people I made the video with, were saying the same thing basically. So I thought it would be a really good idea to push something that I’d already written about and something that was now being talked about. IE: the relationship between Bush and Blair, and the possible bombing of Iraq. I just thought it would be a great thing to, other people were saying the same thing as me, and I just thought, you know, maybe this is the time.
Foxy: This record, you had nearly finished it before Sept. 11, didn’t you?
George: Well, on Sept. 11, horrible, it seems like the most scary time, it actually stopped me in my tracks, and I couldn’t finish the record at the time because Sept 11 was just as horrific to me as to everyone else. It threw me off, I stopped working for about 6 weeks, I didn’t know what to do. I felt like my creative life, the life and the horror that everyone was watching at the same time, were kind of intermingled. I was freaked out by the fact that I had been writing about the possibility of something like this and then it happened. So I really didn’t know how to finish it, I didn’t know how to release it and to be respectful of what had gone on, and I couldn't really. So I just sat on it for a little while. And then this year, when people started talking about possible bombing of Iraq, and there were very, very strong arguments against bombing Iraq, I started to think, okay, we should tighten this up and make it more relevant to what’s going on now, and put it out, which is what happened.
Foxy: Do you find it quite worrying, I don’t know why I have the weak angle because you come out with a record like this, and people think that clearly notes you are a terrorist sympathizer. And I’m thinking, my god, that is an obscene thing to say about someone. It must be hurtful and irritating.
George: Yeah. Well, I don’t think it was really people, it was the Murdoch organization. I had spoken to the Mirror, I had helped the Mirror at a point where the Mirror, where Murdoch is selling his papers so cheaply that he’s losing money week after week by selling the Sun at incredibly low prices. They are really trying to win this war with the Mirror which has been going on for years and years and for some reason it is much more ferocious right now. I knew that I was walking into the middle of that, and I knew that there would be a price to pay for that. But I didn’t know that it would be quite so heavy, I mean, the truth is the NY Post printed a story the same morning that I had released a statement. Actually, I tried to prevent what could possibly be anyone’s interpretation of the video, and I put it out a statement that everybody pretty much ignored because that afternoon there had been a NY Post article that had basically said that I was anti-American. And I had to release a statement saying please don't take this as anti-American. It is anti-Bush, but that surely is the same position as just about every democrat in America. And to try and let people know that I was criticising Tony Blair principally. Anyway, that all went out the window, I talked to the Sun, the NY Post, which is another Murdoch newspaper and whose editor used to be the editor of our Sun newspaper, put out this incredibly horrific piece of journalism, which totally mislead people. And also, inferred that I was in some way sympathetic to Al Qiada which is absolutely ludicrous. It means, in reality, that I can’t go back to my house in America.
Foxy: Was this the article that called you the washed up pop perv?
George: Washed up pervert, George Michael. I thought, hmm, that was a nice way to open. I wasn’t worried by that stuff so much, that’s just homophobia, and of course, if I wanted to do something about it, I could. But I’m not so worried about that. I just, I think it’s really, really sad that the British press, in particular, and I’m ultimately a British artist trying to do something to help what I see as a dangerous situation in our country. And the fact that the British press chose to carry on, I mean, the British press don’t like me, because I haven’t interacted with them for the best part of 14-15 years. I decided many years ago, that what I really needed was my records on the radio, so that people could hear them and they’d go out and buy them. I make a video, I make a record and I stick it out there. I’ve been doing it for years, haven’t been promoting on television, haven’t been talking to the newspapers, and I think a lot of the media loves every opportunity they have to kind of slap me down. Or, to say that he’s over. The number of times that people have said that my career is nearly over and try to base it around something. and I really thought that in this particular instance they might see that the issue as being more important than slagging off George Michael.
Next: George talks about the after effect of his interview with Trevor McDonald.

George: continues: So what really happened was, I kept making statements which people kept ignoring, and they would keep thinking up little pieces of Murdoch, anti-George Michael stuff, and that’s what’s been printed around the world. Shockingly enough, when I actually did speak, and I spoke with Trevor McDonald last week, apparently, well, the producers called me yesterday. And said that their figures had doubled, their normal figures doubled, so people were interested in seeing it. What’s really shocking is that after I actually spoke, there was this deathly silence! There hasn’t been one article in the papers in the last four days. It was two weeks of slagging me off, and picking out pieces of Murdoch’s stuff and spreading it around like bad gossip in the playground. And I actually spoke and everybody just shut up! In one respect I should be pleased, because it means that they didn’t know how to slag me after that.
Foxy: Because they had listened to what you had to say.
George: Exactly. I think what they knew from seeing me on Trevor McDonald, was that I was genuinely concerned about the issue. I wasn’t just trying to get a hit record. Hit records are fairly, the honest truth is, this is a hit record. I could have put it out with a video of me just singing up there with a camera, you know, nice special effects, George looks nice kind of thing. And no one would have noticed! For weeks! what I was singing about. Because it’s not written in that directive a fashion, but because I chose to make the issue, I tried, actually, the idea of the video was to make sure that people didn’t take offence. When they saw humour, and the humour would actually help them to understand what I was trying to say in a gentle way. What happened was I put out the video thinking oh, humour, we get the humour there and people will understand. When in fact, it totally destroyed peoples confidence in the record, because everyone was like, oh, this might be too controversial.
Foxy: So they actually forgot to listen to the record.
George: Absolutely. And the record, at the end of the day, is a pop record. Making a point, and making, even within the record, it’s a humorous record. I’m not trying to sit there really having a go at people in a personal manner, I’m trying to do it with satire. But I think that ultimately, people will decide for themselves, as usual, whether they like the record on the radio, and I honestly believe that tried to make a record that people would really enjoy, that my normal audience would enjoy. Because what's the...
George: ....point in making, in trying to bring an issue into the mainstream that you feel is not being brought into the mainstream, that you think is important, and then doing it with a left of field record. Like Freeek, for instance. (cute giggles)
(Foxy compared this record to another record, and I’m not sure just what one it was, "Bushwire" possibly? so now to continue........)
George: It was left of field for them!
Foxy: Very left of field.
George: Very left, and I loved it. But I understood that it was a risk. As far as the records concerned, when you’re trying to say something that you want as many people to hear as possible, in terms of the issue, you try and make a record that they’re gonna love. And that’s what I spent months trying to do. So to have people, basically, brave enough to do it, and then people say they’re not sure that they can even play it, even though it’s a hit, because we’re afraid of the controversy. These day’s controversy is worrying to advertisers, therefore worrying to all the publications, radio stations. It’s not a good thing anymore, controversy. People who think that I made this to get myself a little bit of publicity should think again, because this kind of publicity does not do an artist good in this day and age.
Next comes breakfast for George...bacon, roll, packet of fags, tea.....you know, all the usual stuff.......

Foxy: We have a lot to talk about. It’s the breakfast hour, get the traffic people off to work, so let’s get on with it.
Traffic reporter: Good morning, George. It's very interesting. It’s such a wide issue, what you are, what you have been writing about. The video. And they do affect a lot of people.
George: Absolutely. But the thing is the album is about lots, I have some great ideas for lyrics, and some of the songs that are already completed, there mostly about things that, there not normally about me. Because I’m very happy right now. I don’t want to just sit and sing love songs to Kenny.
(Foxy turns programme over to Traffic...)
Traffic reporter: Ah, George. Hello. I think the video’s absolutely wonderful by the way. I think it's fantasic.
(traffic report)

Foxy: (talks about getting a roll to eat) I’ll get one for George, so while he’s on a bit of a roll this morning, let’s have a bit of a chat.
George: I’d love a roll. I’d love a roll. I’ve had no breakfast.
Foxy: Would you like a bacon sandwich (for the Americans) or something?
George: I’d love a bacon sandwich.
Foxy: The smell of a bacon sandwich, even if you’re a vegetarian, is apparently the one thing they can’t stomach.
George: Well, I gave up meat for about 12 or 13 years and about 2 years ago I did that Atkins diet thing and you just can’t exist without meat., you need it. And, I so missed bacon, so ultimately, I don’t know. I don’t have any pounds in the back of me. Ultimately, once you start eating bacon again, you can’t give it up. It’s just all, it’s the best.
Foxy: Now, I, in terms of the controversy that’s going on, if you only read the press, or listened to the radio, watched TV, you would definitely think that you are almost the universally, not hated man, but everyone’s really ganging up on you. Now, the amount of emails that we’ve got, obviously from around the world, that want to be on the show today, not one has said anything negative. And I mean, everyone is quite free to, good or bad, if they got something to say, we’ve said let us know. No one has said anything negative about you. Most people have said I think the video’s very funny. I mean, Brits, we’ve got great sense of humours.
George: (After lots of chewing between uh huh’s and hmm’s during Foxy´s speech) Absolutely.
Foxy: And American’s have got great sense of humours. I think most people see it as, I think, 2DTV it’s a very funny TV show, and it makes for a very clever video. Now, in your reactions with the public, like people coming up to you, have they been slagging you off?
George: Oh, no. People have been amazing. That’s what’s so shocking about the whole situation, is that I know I’m speaking for a lot of people. A lot of people are very worried about the possibility of us getting into another ruck with the middle east, of getting involved in that. And they want to know, they really want to be absolutely sure that it’s really necessary. And people are worried cause they all have families, that know that we've all got our human everyone’s concern. There’s no question that the reaction that I’ve got, day after day, you know, person after person coming up to me and saying good for you and I feel that way, and blah, blah, blah. And you would never know it, really, in the media. It’s just so shocking to me that the media doesn’t want to help that situation. And I know a lot of the media agrees with me! There’s no question. They’re not all right wing. And they’re not all Bush supporters. They’re just all anti-George Michael.
Foxy: No one can not have been scared after Sept. 11, you know, about the whole world situation. Everyone’s got concerns. Absolutely, I’ll be truthful, I and my wife, we stood there in our kitchen holding our baby when they were doing the tribute song about a week after. And we were thinking, my god, what kind of world is she growing up in?
George: Yes. And I saw, they showed pictures on the Trevor McDonald thing, they showed some pictures of Sept. 11, and it still terrifies you to watch it. It’s still terrifying, and incredibly depressing to see those shots. And I know, absolutely, that, actually not just the British public, but the American public, in their efforts to, in the medias efforts to say that I’ve really screwed up and the American’s hate George Michael as much as we English journalist do, they’re really doing a disservice to Americans. Because American’s are not that reactionary about it. There has been lots of support in America for what I’ve said. But it seems to be more important to have a go at me than to represent either the English or the American’s properly.
Next: George and Foxy talk about some interesting......"On this day in history".....July 16.......

Foxy: Do you think people don’t want to listen to you because you’re a pop star?
George: I think that’s.....
Foxy: Can I ask you an honest question? How much because you’re a gay pop star?
George: I think, there’s no question, listen, I’m not going to blame the whole thing on homophobia, I would say that homophobia seems to be, because you can still get away with saying things about gay people on the radio and on the television that you can’t, for instance, say about black people. There are stereotypes that you have to avoid. There are just certain comments that just cannot be made, because they’re offensive to black people. But this doesn’t apply to gay people yet. I hope one day it will because I don’t think it’s the adults that matter, I think it’s the kids that matter. And if you’re a 12 year old kid, I mean, I didn’t have this going on because I didn’t know my sexuality when I was a young boy. But if I was 12 or 13 years old and saw someone being attacked, someone who is generally seen within the public as quite a popular figure, saw that they were being constantly attacked for their sexuality, then I think that it would really, really unnerve me as a child. I would find it, I would think that that’s what I had to look forward to. You know, I think that’s really not fair. Much as you and I can sit and have a laugh about, there are those funny aspects to the differences between gay people and straight people. And I can sit and laugh about those as an adult because I’ve got a sense of humour and I’m a very lucky man. It doesn’t really affect my life. But there are a lot of kids that must just sit there thinking, jesus, this is still what it means to be a gay person? This is what I’m grow up and have to accept. And I don’t think that’s fair. But really I don’t think, I think it’s just something that’s convenient to attach to my name in order to turn people who are right wing or homophobic against me. There’s a certain group of the public that you will inevitably succeed in turning them against an artist because they’re gay. It’s a small percentage, but that’s what they play on. I don’t really think it’s that important an element, but as I said, a very convenient thing to attack me with.
Foxy: (invites callers) Questions, and if you want to call us up, George happy to take your calls.
George: Yeah. Let’s lighten it up.
Foxy: We’ve been getting so many emails, so many questions about one thing, and you can probably answer this in 10 seconds. Will you be touring this year? Any kind of live gig at all?
George: (long pause) Uhhhhh, actually, there’s something that I’m going to be doing that I can’t talk about yet because it’s not a big public thing. But there is something that I’m going to be doing a bit later in the year live, but I can’t talk about it right now. Next year, on the back of the album, I very much hope so, yeah.
Foxy: Fantastic, alright. Because there are so many, at least 90% are saying, when's George going to be playing live?
George: Well, I’ve got some fantastic ideas and if I can get it together, it’ll be the best show I’ve ever done.
(It’s only natural.....George is talking about something REALLY, REALLY important.....so it’s time to take a commercial break...)
FASTLOVE

Foxy: Fastlove, with our guest George this morning, having a bit of a roll this morning. We were just chatting during that about strange coincidences, July 16 in history. 622 marks the traditional beginnings of the Islamic Era. 1945 the first atomic bomb exploded in New Mexico. Which is what's in your video and Britain is obviously the target. 1979 Suddam Hussein became Iraq’s president. Last year, a year ago, Rupert Murdoch topped the list of the most powerful figures in the UK media industry. And, this year, George Michael.
George: Well, I think it’s, something that I said in the Mirror, that nobody really picked up but, of course, it might have been disregarded as positive in my point of view, was that we do have massive, massive Islamic population in this country. And people really need to remember that fundamentalism, it’s always extremist view of that a particular religion. And, I grew up around a lot of Asian people. And you know that they were peace loving people. Islam is not a, it’s quite a gentle religion in some ways and I just think that, I don’t hear anybody really trying to stick up for these other communities in our country and try and pacify them. But we’re not, we’re not anti-Islam. We understand that fundamentalism is fundamentalism, and it always is extreme. And actually, the religious right can be just as scary as fundamentalist Islamic person, you know.
Foxy: They got some terrifying emails on Sept. 11, people could be so, so delinquent in their views. But that’s because people were scared, you know.
George: Of course, of course.
Foxy: I mean, a week afterwards, I mean, what had happened around the world, and some of the reprisals, it was terrifying. And how ignorant people are in general.
George: And people have calmed down now. People are seeing the issues a bit more clearly. None of us want this to happen. There’s no question that this, that British people, and people who have lived in Britain for a long time, want peace, you know.
Foxy: What do you think of Mr. Blair?
George: I think he’s, well, I actually think he’s well intentioned. And basically a good person, which I think is something to be very proud of in any political system that there’s a person that is actually controlling things is actually a decent person. I think he’s a decent man. I think he’s very misguided in these decisions that he’s making, and that’s what I’m talking about. But I still basically believe in him as a decent man. But unfortunately, I believe that a well intentioned megalomaniac can be every bit as dangerous as one with, like Saddam Hussein. Not in the same way, but sometimes, if they’re misguided, the results can be the same.
Foxy: Do you think that Bush is trying to finish what Dad didn’t finish, then?
George: It’s a worry, isn’t it? You can’t, I can’t pretend to know that. It’s a real worry, do you really, really trust the situation where, in the back of his mind, there’s the possibility that he’s dreaming about doing it for Dad. Because it’s a good question. The whole world thinks that his Dad should have gone in and finished the job off. When Saddam attacked Kuwait in the early 90’s, everyone was kind of hoping that the job would get done. And I think, actually, that they left him there, because they were afraid of who would replace him. Now, who could possibly have been worse than this man, I have no idea. But, there’s definitely a feeling that the Bush administration, last time around, Daddy did not finish the job. So that worries me, it worries me greatly.
Next: George takes a phone call and give us all a lesson in......um, Greek pronunciations......

Foxy: Well, you said let’s lighten things up a bit. And Michelle, we’ve got Michelle here, she’s been holding on for the last 15 minutes. Good morning, Michelle.
Michelle: Good morning, Foxy, good morning, George.
George: Hi, Michelle, how you doing?
Michelle: Well, not to bad.
George: Nice to hear you.
Foxy: What’s your question, Michelle?
Michelle: The question is, the point that I’d like to make is, through the years, as someone who's actually followed George through his career, I’ve followed George through Wham, going to solo, and through it all
George: That’s a lot of years, lot of years, Michelle.
Michelle: That it is, George. The point that I would just like to make is that all of your records, and all of your tracks, and all of your work, have all actually had a point to it. Some years ago when you made I Want Your Sex, there was a big aw about that.
George: Uh hmm. (Stop it, George! THAT is MY favourite song....so just STOP it!)
Michelle: I don’t actually see what any form of the media has got a problem with you, because all your songs have a point.
George: Well, I don't (he doesn't stand a chance. He doesn't agree, but he doesn't stand a chance)
Michelle: So if you come to a point and something happened and you didn't make a track or you didn't make something out of it, I think, well, you wouldn’t be you.
George: Oh, thank you.
Michelle: I really don’t think that would be you, because that is your style.
George: I think it’s quite strange that a lot of people have said, where does this man suddenly get his politics from. A lot of people, a lot of journalists especially I suppose, political journalists and people who would consider themselves, you know, broad to the right or the left and are very, very superior in their knowledge to anyone who’s as lowly as a pop star. Even at 39, apparently. You know, if you listen to it, if you read some of the stuff, you’d think the only thing I’d ever achieved musically was Wake Me Up Before You Go Go. You know, really, I think I’ve written a few things since then that should have changed peoples opinion of my intellect. And, ultimately I’ve done a lot of things in the last 20 years, I’ve tried really hard to keep my integrity up. When people see me performing, almost every time through the 90’s, when people saw me performing, it was FOR something. Or it was to try and bring attention to something, whether it was Kosovo, AIDS, various things. I’m not trying to blow my own trumpet, I’m saying that there’s no reason for the amount of cynicism that I have received. And I actually think that what's going on is we are living in a time where, because of massive ratings wars, whether it be, all areas of the media are frantically trying to get their corner of the market. It has become so much more fragmented. I think that in order to try to hit those ratings time after time, people have to compromise. And the people that are employed in publications have to be the kind of people who will compromise. And I think that when they see somebody stand up and say, actually, I think this is something important, and actually try to do something outside of making a bit of money, I think it really, really unnerves them. So what they do, is they try to undermine that person by saying that they’re really just doing if for their own purposes or whatever. I mean, it’s a very sad state of affairs, but I really don’t think the public is as cynical as the media these days. I mean, the amount of cynicism that I have dealt with the last two weeks has really depressed me, but I know that people out there don’t feel that way.
Foxy: Can I ask you a question, Michelle? What do you feel about Shoot the Dog?
Michelle: I think it’s funny. I just wouldn’t expect anything less from Mr. Michaels.
George: Thank you, thank you. Well, like I said, I tried to make something that I felt was important. I wanted people to hear this, so I tried to do something that I thought that people would really enjoy.
Foxy: We’ll talk more. If you want to email, that’s foxy@capitalfm.com, George will be here for the foreseeable future.
(Musical/advert break)

Foxy: Foxy here at breakfast, where George, you’re in the middle of...bacon...
George: (still chewing, trying to swallow) I mean, here I'm in the middle of my sandwich, I’m starving! I can’t believe you’d put me back on the air...
Foxy: I’ll take ads and then we’ll come back. We’ll let you finish your sandwich.
George: Well, I’m not a very fast eater.
Foxy: The smell of it is good as ever. I have to be honest with you.
(that amazing, sexy laugh of George......)
(music break)

Traffic reporter IS BACK!!!! WITH HIS GREEK HI!
NOTE: Sasha knows a little teeny bit of Greek, pronunciation, that is. I do not know how to write Greek.......NOR how to transcribe it. I have done my best......but the real humour here is George.....I hope I do him justice on this........
Traffic reporter: (missing some) They said, why do you want to know that? I said, hey look, I’ve got George Michael coming in, and he’s going to say, (___?___) So, I was going to start with goodymya..
Foxy: Good morning.
Traffic reporter: Then degonis
Foxy: How are you.
George: Say the first one again!
Traffic reporter: Godie mya.
George: No, no, no, no, no.
Traffic reporter: Well, then do it for me.
George: It’s galdi-meyr-ra.
Traffic reporter: Well, you’re wrong. I wrote it down! It’s godie.....
George: But it’s galdi-meyr-ra....
Traffic reporter: Galdi-meyr-ra......
George: Galdi-meyr-ra.....
Traffic reporter: Good morning. Then de-gonis.
George: How are you.....
Traffic reporter: Is that alright.....
George: Yeah......
Traffic reporter: Then is-a-gala, are you okay, is that fair enough?
(George sexy giggles)
Traffic reporter: Is it even close?
George: It’s not even close! Actually. I don’t...
Traffic reporter: Someone told me, they told me this was......and he’s Greek!
George: I can tell you all the swear words....
Traffic reporter: I’ll tell you, they are both dead! (___?___) I even wrote down welcome to Capital radio, but the other ones were so bad, I don’t dare try.
Foxy: I bet it’s even funnier, that one. Go on.
Traffic reporter: Galla sordee faydee to Capital radio.
George: How?! When was the last time that anyone made Greek sound like Japanese?!
(thunderous laughter)
George: Awful! That is absolutely hopeless.
Traffic reporter: Tony, you’re going to get such a smacking when I pop around the show next week!
Foxy: Don’t blame him for your bad pronunciations!
Traffic reporter: (___?___)
(Had his car washed at a Greek wash Michaels) (Apparently, this is where TR learned some of his impeccable pronunciations)
George: And by the way, his name is Mikaleedee, it’s not Michael.
Traffic reporter: ....he’s done very well for your car...(not sure....telling him to go wash up his car??)
(laughter break)
George: That’s like, I remember when, well, believe me, there are a few Mikaleedees around.
(laugher break for recovering DJ’s and their guests)
Foxy: Great fun today.
Traffic reporter: Well, I wrote it all down. I thought I’d give it a shot!
George: Maybe I should go and have my car washed there.
Traffic reporter: Go do it, they take care of everything there. They’re marvellous. They’re all Greeks, the whole thing.
George: Whereabouts is it? Not another one of these (___?___)
Traffic reporter: (Sorry, no free ads in this forum) Road in North Finchley.
George: North Finchley, huh? That’s not too far.
Foxy: You know North Finchley, don’t you?
Traffic reporter: Tally ho. (___?___)
Next Foxy talks about some of those females......ooops, I mean EMAILS!

(Traffic reporter doesn’t seem too keen on getting that traffic report out to the London motorists. The lessons in Greek are over, but he’s still got some things he would like to clear up with George......yeah, wouldn’t we all)
Traffic reporter: Can I ask you one quick question that I heard about you? Is this true?
George: Listen, listen, everything you’ve heard about me is true.
Traffic reporter: Do you have your internet tuned to Capital? I’ve heard that you have your radio tuned, in America, Los Angeles, that you actually have it tuned into Capital FM?
George: You mean, when I get back into LA, when I’m in LA? To be honest with you, that’s one of the things that people don’t really realize. But, I’m only in LA for about 3 or 4 weeks out of the year, maximum.
Traffic reporter: So you’re not really living over there?
George: I think people think I live in LA because I’m not on the television every 5 minutes. But it just means that I want to sit at home instead of being on the television. But, I’m very rarely there. I’m here at least 10 months out of the year. But, when I’m over there, I do tune into Capital. It’s not great reception, but you can hear absolutely what’s going on. So, I do do that, yeah.
Foxy: How about that.
George: Well, but I never listen to the traffic reports, strangely enough, when I’m in LA. You do me no good in LA.
Traffic reporter: I guess when you’re sitting there on Mulholland Drive, you don’t want to know what’s going on in Hertfordshire.
(Traffic reporter finally gets onto the traffic report)
Music break - Madonna’s DRESS YOU UP (luv it!)

Foxy: George Michael is our guest this morning. These are random emails that we’re taking off the (___?___) This is Paul from south Florida USA for Mr. George Michael, don’t let anyone get you down. Voice your opinion. It makes people more proud of you than we already are. Keep that head held high, don’t forget, I want a smile on that face next time. Comments for George Michael, this one is in from Renee in Florida. Question for George Michael, ah, here we are, this one comes from Happy, are you surprised that no one in the public eye has spoken in support of these issues? That you have been trying to raise the medias attention and interest and you are alone in your concerns, which I know not to be true. What are they afraid of?
George: Well, I think, that’s quite, a very interesting point, actually. And it has occurred to me over the last week or so, that I’ve had absolutely no support, publicly, from any other artist. And I think it’s because everyone is starting to realize how difficult it is to speak out. And how easy it is to upset people these days. And it’s a really, really sad state of affairs, I mean this is supposed to be rock n roll, and the old rock n roll seems to have disappeared. There’s one particular artist, who is, that to me is in the reverse, I’m not going to say, but she’s in the reverse situation. In that I’m a Brit artist who is living my life with an American, and she’s in the reverse position. And I find her silence in this, a little bit, well, maybe predictable. But, I think......
FOXY turns up the music – Dress You Up --
Foxy: This doesn’t have anything to do with the record I’m playing, does it?
George: I’m not! Well, actually, it never occurred to me. It hadn’t occurred to me!
(Yes, as a matter of fact, George IS being a bit sarcastic. Imagine that.)
(laughter)
George: There you go. But, I think it’s interesting, because she has a point of view, but she’s cleverer than me. She’s gonna keep her mouth shut.
Foxy: Another one, I’ve got a question for George Michael. I live in Florida, and I watched the video to Shoot the Dog on MTV Europe’s website and I thought it was funny as hell. I heard that you were scared to go to your house here in the states for fear someone was going to kill you. True or not?
George: Well, I don’t think I’d put it that far, I think, to be completely honest, the truth is that I am absolutely aware that most Americans support free speech. And that’s why most American reaction has been good. The unfortunate part about America is that, it only takes one loony, and there are quite a few per square mile, and unfortunately, because they have absolutely useless gun control laws, it’s a lot more frightening a prospect to walk into a situation of hostility in America than it would be in most countries in the world. Until I’m convinced that someone has presented my argument properly over there, I don’t really see why I wouldn’t be scared right now.
Foxy: So, you’d only go back there, you won’t be going back there?
George: I won’t be going back there in the foreseeable future, which is really sad, because, it’s where Kenny comes from, I love Kenny’s family, I love my house in LA even though I’m only there once in a while. And it’s just the fact that Mr. Murdoch has made that impossible is very irritating to me.
Foxy: So, George, are you going to stick around for more of your calls? You gonna hang...
George: Yeah, absolutely. I’ve only got half way through this sandwich. I got a packet of fags, a cup of tea....
Foxy: And look at that...
George: Oh, I’m amazed! I’m amazed that this isn’t a non-smoking studio, actually.
Foxy: Well, I think it is......
(roars of laughter)
Foxy: We had Chris Tennent on here earlier in the week, and he was. But, so I don’t think, the rules don’t really apply, don’t worry about a thing.....(more studio laughter)
(advert break)

Foxy: With George Michael this morning, (cue Outside) Is this one of your favourites, I mean, up tempo hits.
George: Um, yeah, I’d say so, yeah. Probably, Fastlove is probably first, and then this takes second.
(music break – GEORGE MICHAEL – OUTSIDE!! yeah!)

Foxy: We’ve got Adrian on the phone now. Adrian, you're on.
Adrian: Good morning. Hi, Foxy, hi, George.
George: Hi, Adrian, how you doing?
Adrian: I’m fine. I just want to say well done, for opening your mouth and saying what everybody wants to say, but they're too scared.
George: Well, thank you very much.
Adrian: I think the problem is, basically, that you’re a high profile pop star, and people don’t like to hear the truth. And I think they’re all just having a go at you because you’re speaking the truth.
George: I think that’s a very good point. I think also, it's just a matter of, you know, celebrity has become such a lightweight thing in the past 15 to 20 years, and now it’s, I get people trying to lump me in with a new breed of celebrity. And I have to remind people, I’ve been doing this for 20 years, and when I started out, saying this kind of thing was not remarkable at all. It was just part of our industry, you know, to have outspoken people, people saying things of a political nature. And now, that’s so much not the case. And when someone does, they’re really setting themselves up as a target. Because the cynicism that goes with it is just overwhelming.
Adrian: I think that you’ve basically given people something to talk about. And they have forgotten what the real issues are.
George: Yeah, exactly......
Adrian: (Adrian pulls a George Michael...and interrupts HIM this time) At the end of the day, this is only your opinion, you’re not a politician.
George: Yeah........
Adrian: (She does it AGAIN) It’s not like you have any power to do anything to change anything.
George: Exactly.......
Adrian: (I love it! She did it again!) You don’t have, this is only your opinion.
George: Exactly. (George doesn’t LET her do it again. Jumps right over her next words) And, again, there shouldn’t be any reason that this debate is not encouraged. You know, what’s wrong with debate?
Foxy: Adrian, you did say he’s not a politician. But we all have the right to, we all have a voice. So, actually, if people do make their opinions known, whether we like them or not, and it does inspire debate. And actually, the power of the people is huge.
Adrian: The power of the people is very, very huge. And it’s the people who want to keep people like George quiet, that are shouting the loudest.
George: Of course.
(he doesn’t even try this time, just lets her go on)
Adrian: I think that most of the people that agree with George, are saying yes, we do agree with George, but we don’t have the voice to say that we agree with George. Perhaps we have a show like this to phone in and say yes, we agree with you. And the whole of London’s listening, and we can show how much support there is for George.
George: Thank you.......(yep.....you know what happens)
Adrian: And this is something that is good, the fact that George came onto this show and is talking here and there are people who can phone you and email you.
George: Yeah, absolutely. (George pauses to make sure it’s finally his turn) Well, actually, I would agree with your decision on that entirely.
Foxy: Okay, well, appreciate your call there, Adrian. Thank you for hanging on. She probably should have been to work about an hour ago.
Adrian: That’s right, I should’ve been.
Foxy: Well, there you go. Thanks for your call.
Next George talks about his Mum, some more on the rest of this LONG awaited album, touring, AND his bacon sandwich does a number on him......all this is live, too.

Foxy: Is there anything, well, at the end of this, people will always think of Shoot the Dog as this incredibly controversial record now. When you were writing this song, did you ever think, did you want it to be controversial? Or, was this something that you just really thought, and you tried to get the lyrics out?
George: Well, there’s a very specific timeline to all that. It’s that when I wrote this, I wrote it completely speculatively. It was saying, you know, there’s a situation welling up here that we should be aware of. But, you know, as a pop singer, as one of the many tracks on the album, I never thought that it would be a huge focus of debate. It’s only what happened on Sept. 11, (the bacon speaks!!!) Excuse me, my bacon sandwich is repeating on me. It’s only what’s happened, what happened in Sept., and the consequent actions of Mr. Bush and Mr. Blair, that has brought this, has made this such a fever pitched argument. In reality, it was just a comment, you know. So I wasn’t writing it to be contentious. I was writing it, as well as many things that I have written about on this album which are talking about the world as opposed to me. And I think there’s a very simple reason for that. Which is, I know that people think that I go on about it, but it really shook me losing my Mum. And it’s taken a good 4 or 5 years to get though that. And whilst I was dealing with something as intensely painful as that personally, I couldn’t really write about the way I felt about me, or about anything else really, that was personal. And it kind of crippled me on a lyrical, in a lyrical sense, so I thought, well what’s the option? The other option is to start writing about things that are outside of yourself. And the whole album is listed with things that, like this is a track about genetic engineering, there’s is a track about single parenting. I know it sounds weird but these are all pop records. I’ve tried to make pop records but I’ve tried to write about things that are very interesting to me about modern life. And the new album really is about modern life. It’s not about the childhood tribulations of George Michael.
Foxy: Does it have a name, this album?
George: Uh, I don’t want to give you the name yet.
Foxy: Okay.
George: Because whenever I do that......
Foxy: It not finished yet, is it?
George: It’s almost finished. I’ve got to really put my head down and, to be honest with you, the last 3 or 4 months I’ve really, really managed to pick up speed. And I’ve got to get my head down and try to get it ready for Christmas. It’s not ready yet. So PLEASE buy the single......(George Michael begs??! Who’d have guessed) Please! It’s not coming out, the album is not around the corner, it won’t be for the first single. I know that nobody releases, even two singles before an album these days. It’s always single...album. That’s the American model, and that’s the model that we follow. But I’ve always believed that you build a picture towards an album.
Foxy: It used to be 3 singles.
George: In the days of Wham! The first Wham! album, because the record company wanted the single (I think he means ALBUM) out after the second single, and I was so determined to have people understand a little bit more about Wham! before the album came out, I grabbed the tapes. I know this sounds ridiculous, but I took the tapes when the album was finished cause I knew the record company would get their hands on them. and I would have no control. So I grabbed them and I hid them in my Mums bedroom.
(laughter break) (God, no one has a giggle like George!)
George: So I hid them in my Mums bedroom. So ultimately, the record company is jumping up and down, the head of Sony was calling me a thug, and basically, that was my way of making sure that there was a picture built before the album. And I feel that way now. I want, well, the album will come with the third single. Which is an absolute corker by the way.
Foxy: Is there a ballad on this album? Is there like, classic George Michael on this?
George: Oh, absolutely, yeah. It’s funny, because normally what happens, is there’s this, the last couple of albums there’s been more tendency toward the ballads and I’ve known I had to have a couple of up tempo singles. But this one is a complete reverse. It’s a complete pop and dance album. But I know I’ve got to get those ballads right, to make it balance out as a George Michael record.
Foxy: I’m gonna play some Oasis now, then we’ll get your views on Mr. Noel Gallagher.
George: (laugh) That won’t take long, won’t take long.
(music break)

Foxy: Noel Gallagher, apparently you liked his song writing style. Which is what I believe is in one of the articles over the weekend. But he blew you off royally. He said he hated Shoot the Dog and basically thought you should shut up.
George: Yeah, well, of course. Well, I DID like his writing style once. At one point I thought he was the most exciting writer in the country, no question. And his brother remains, you know, I’m a huge fan of Liam, I always will be. I think he’s got the best voice in the last 20 years. In terms of making you hear a lyric, making you hear, it’s just a fantastic sound, I love his voice. I like him, and the way that he views things, because he’s straight up. Noel? You know, ultimately, if I respected him as a person, I might be worried that he was saying that what I was doing wasn't worth anything. But I really just don’t think the man would understand the lyric. So, apart from anything else, he’s just not very smart. He’s got a great mouth on him, he can be funny. But, one, to be making the same music he’s been making for 10 years, and pointing at anybody for anything, I think is strange. But also, secondly, to still be using the same technique to get publicity, which for him is to slag off whoever’s very popular at the moment. And, you know, we’ve been listening to it for almost 10 years. So, at least, if you’re going to slag people, find something originally interesting to say. He slagged me basically because I said he, I thought that he had ruined the band, and I do think that. I do. I think that Oasis, ten years ago, was this inspirational powerhouse, you know. I went to see them live as many times as I could. I could manage on that first couple of tours. Because I thought they were absolutely inspirational, and I still think Liam’s voice is inspirational. But the songs are no longer inspirational, and the band is not that incredible chemistry that they were 10 years ago. So, me having said that, there had to be a point where he came back, and this was it. Now the fact again, he doesn’t give a toss whether I’m saying anything positive or negative, he’s just trying to have a go at George Michael. Fine. But, like I said, I don’t think he’s very smart, so he’s not going to worry me really.
Foxy: Would you like to be in a band, now?
George: I’d love to have been in a band. I’d love to, 20 years of wishing I was really in a band.
Foxy: Really?
George: Because it takes so much weight off your shoulders.
Foxy: Do you ever miss Andrew?
George: No, I don’t miss him, cause I see him. I go stay with him, and he comes and stays with me. But in terms of just having someone to hang out and have a laugh with, especially live, one of the reasons that I stayed away from live work for so long. It’s an incredibly isolating, lonely experience. And I had been used to doing it with Andrew, which was a laugh. That was the life, because we could always take a piss out of each other and kept everything in perspective. But when you’re on your own in the middle of that whole thing, especially when it was big in America, it’s so isolating. And I’ve never thought that life should be, I think life is short. I don’t think that you should spend huge periods of it being unhappy for the sake of work or making money. Obviously, you have to do that if you have children that you have to support and there are things that you actually have to, responsibilities that you have to fulfil. But I’m a single man, I’m a wealthy man, and I have the opportunity to be, to try and make my life as full as possible. And I never felt that my life was full when I was on tour. I hope this time it will be different, because I’ve got Kenny and I’ll have someone basically there with me to help keep things sane. But when I was on my own, touring was just a very, very difficult experience for me.
Next George talks about the potential for a Wham! reunion and the 2004 Summer Games in Athens.

Foxy: Are there any circumstances, in the world, that would make you, perhaps, like do a one off? A Wham! gig. Or, to do a few songs? Not like a whole gig, but just a few, all of the songs?
George: Any circumstances? Huh. Are you klutzy (? not sure) ?
(laughter)
Foxy: Well, you know, 20 years.
George: You could never get Andy to do it. He’s all against it.
Foxy: Really?
George: No. I mean, he so doesn’t want to have anything to do with the business anymore. And I understand because the business has treated him really horribly. I mean, I was nervous, even to, well, I’m probably going to have a big party towards the end of the year because it was 20 years ago that Andrew and I had our first hit. So I’ll probably have a party around the time that Young Guns hit the charts in 1982. You know, 20 years on. And I was nervous to even ask him if he’d come to that! Because I knew he’d have to deal with the press. But he said yes, and hopefully he will be there. So.....
Foxy: Oh, that’ll be fun.
George: Yes. It will be great.
Foxy: Can’t believe it’s been 20 years. That’s really terrifying.
George: It is terrifying.
Foxy: Where does the time go?
George: I know, I know. you’re an old guy, Foxy. You just have to accept it.
Foxy: Well, thank you very much. Okay, you’re nearly there yourself.
(laughter)
Foxy: The big 4 0 next year.
George: Yeah, next year. I’ve got about 340 days left in my thirties.
Foxy: Are you happy to hang for a little bit more?
George: Oh, absolutely. Love to.
(advert break)

(Traffic reporter has returned with more good humour)
Traffic reporter: It’s very interesting.
George: (casual conversation). He really won’t like that. He’s an old fool.
Traffic reporter: But he won’t like that!? But it’s not far off.
George: Oi!
Traffic reporter: What?
George: Excuse me! But, I didn’t, you keep! I didn’t even know my microphone was on! I’ve got my mouth full of bacon sandwich, I’m slagging off people......
Traffic reporter: Well, that’s great!
George: You don’t even tell me......
Traffic reporter: But that’s what we want! That’s what it’s all....
George: Oh, that’s what you.....
Traffic reporter: Absolutely.
Foxy: I can’t believe he’s still got that bacon sandwich!
Traffic reporter: That’s not the same bacon sandwich that you had, like an hour ago, is it?
George: I told you, listen, I’m a slow eater!
Foxy: I have to tell you, I’ve never met a man who masticates more in my life.....
(roars of laughter)
George: Amazingly enough, it hasn’t gotten me into any trouble yet.
(more roars of laughter)
Traffic reporter: Well, listen. We appreciate you, and that lady who held on for half an hour, and said, we appreciate that you’re doing your views. Because when you’re living in a one party state, with no real political opposition, it’s very, very nice when someone actually stands up and says what they want.
(Traffic report break)
(music break – Let’s Get It On – I’m thinking it was George’s selection??)

Foxy: Alright, George. We’re going live now.
George: Are we? Okay, um......
(more laughter, but hey, at least they let him know THIS time)
Foxy: Well, the bacon sandwich is finished.
George: (last chew) Mm hmm....
Foxy: That’s got to have been stone cold by the time you were finished! That’s got to be the longest ever bacon sandwich in your life?
George: Well, it’s not actually completely finished, but I’ve done quite a bit of work on it.
(more laughter)
Foxy: That actually, you know you could win a major prize on that! Be in Madame Tussauds. Here's George's sandwich!
George: Actually, the piano, the John Lennon piano is going into Madame Tussauds in a couple of months.
Foxy: Where is the Lennon piano now?
George: It’s in the Liverpool museum. I let them have it back, basically, because....
Foxy: Did you ever play on it?
George: I did, yes. Very badly. And it was very out of tune. I mean, it’s like an old, you know, Mrs. Mills pub piano....
(laughter)
George: Or, more like one of those moldy old (___?___) But, people expected, well, everyone had heard that I paid a million and a half for this piano, so everyone expected the big white one that’s in the video. Then they see this little old pub piano with a few fag burns, you know, and they’re like, you paid a what?? And it’s like, no, it’s not the point! The point is he wrote the album on it. And they’re all thinking in that, oh, what’s it called? That Give Me Some Truth, it’s called. An old documentary about him making the album, and you see him playing this song, as he’s writing, and you see him playing it to Yoko for the first time, so that’s the important bit, you know. And they’re going to stick that, I think they’re going to do a little thing with him, and I think of Yoko, and the piano. So now everyone is going to see how crappy it looks.
Foxy: Speaking about John Lennon, I was just thinking last night, making some notes because I knew you were coming in, but you’re not the first person that’s ever made a protest song in your life......
George: I know.......
Foxy: And you probably won’t be the last. But he was a great songwriter...
George: Oh, I don’t know. After the last two weeks I might be the last.
Foxy: But after the public....
George: Kill that idea idiom dead......
Foxy: Oh, god I hope not. Because surely that’s what people want. They want hero’s.
George: I’d like, I’d like to think it might inspire a few people to speak up about things. That would be nice. I mean, ultimately, the whole point of writing the record was to try to do something positive, and then if something positive comes out of the idea of I, as an artist, speaking up about something then that would be great. But I doubt it really. I doubt that. I don’t hold out great hopes for the next Blue’s song being about something highly political...
Foxy: The new A1, the new A1 record is pretty hard hitting, so don’t turn your.....
(George laugh sounds pretty hopeless)
Foxy: Now, talking artists like Marvin Gaye, you know, just classic love songs, and some of the all time classic George Michael’s are great ballads, they’re great sexy love songs. Like Careless Whisper and so many others since then. Will you be releasing one as a single, you know, off of this album?
George: Oh, yeah, I think so, absolutely. I’d like to have one big ballad off of this record. Yeah, absolutely.
Foxy: Like.......
George: Well, actually, they, oh! I can’t really say it. It’s gonna spoil the whole surprise.
Foxy: Or you don’t want to say it?
George: Well, I’ve been asked to write, I’ve been asked to write the opening, well, the theme song for the 2004 Olympics.
Foxy: Great!
George: And it’s going to be in Greece. And if they can actually build the bloody stadium in time, which apparently is still questionable....
Foxy: Hope so.....
George: Yeah, I hope so. Drop that kabob and get working! I really hope that that comes up in Greece. Because I would really love to do that. I know my Dad would, it would make my Dad really proud, even though he’s Cypriot and not Greek, and I’d love to write a, you know, not one of those big cheesy ones, but love to write, the challenge would be to write a really good song for the Olympics, you know. And somehow make it inspirational as opposed to.....
Foxy: Have you sat down and thought about that yet?
George: Well, yeah. I’ve got some lyrical ideas and stuff, I’ve gotten. And I don’t know, maybe it will be, I don’t think it will be the one on the album. They want it to be exclusive to the Olympics, the song, But that’s very much in the open, but there are a couple of tracks on this album that I think are, they’re not quite finished but they’re gonna do the job.
Foxy: Well, alright. Funny, your manager is just pacing outside of the studio.
George: Why’s that?
Foxy: Well, I don’t know. I don’t know. I think he’s just thinking, are you STILL on the radio, George?
George: Well, when you drag me out of bed that bloody early in the morning, I figure I’d better make the most of it, that’s all I can say.
Foxy: Good point, well made.
Next George talks about his TV viewing habits and a bright new star..... Ms. Dynamite..... hmmm..... "wicked"

Foxy: Returning from our break, George Michael’s still here.
George: I really thought I’d be out by nine, but there you go.
Foxy: Lovely to have you here with us. Can I just ask you, you're a fan of Ronan Keating? Aren't you?
George: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah I really do, Ronan's such a laugh, he's such a lovely guy.
Foxy: Have you ever managed to get on the back of his motorbike?
George: No, and I don’t think that it’s likely anytime soon.
(laughter)
Foxy: I’ve been meaning to ask you what you watch, especially Big Brother, do you watch it, and who’s going to win?
George: To be honest, I haven’t watched it as much, I think I probably saw more of it the last two years. And I really got a bit offended by the whole rich, poor guy thing. I thought that was really treating them like lab rats. But I saw it, I’ve seen it, I saw the last couple of bits, it is so unbelievably rude of BJ not to pack. When he was up against Casey, I thought that was so arrogant, but not just arrogant but rude. And you know, she’s a lady! She’s a lady! (Lesson to all you gents out there.....God, I hope you ALL heard the way he SAID THAT)
Foxy: And he was gob smacked!
George: And he was gob smacked! Gob smacked! And I think she’s quite cool first of all, I’m glad that she stayed. But I haven’t really watched it. I’ve seen the occasional headline about Jade being a bully at school and stuff like that. But I just, to be honest with you, I sit there and think, you know there are easier ways to earn L70,000, there really are. You know, believe it or not, even though L70,000 is a lot of money, but the amount of money that gets poured into that show through the telephone lines, I can’t believe that’s all they get out of it. I really can’t. But, more than that I just think, I don’t understand why, I can’t understand why people still want to do it. I understood the first couple of years, but when you see how little these people actually get out of it afterwards, then you see how horrible the type of fame they tend to get out of it is, I’m a bit amazed that they had like 10 thousand people trying this year. But there you go.
Foxy: I think it will be more next year.
George: Yeah, I’m sure there will, I’m sure there will be. And almost all of them will be naked tapes next year. I mean, how far do they have to go now? To sort of make the press now. It’s the scary thing now.
Foxy: I know. What other TV shows are you watching a lot?
George: Ummmmmm,
Foxy: I mean, out of habit.
George: We were talking about that 6 Feet Under. I think that one’s really good. What else have I been watching? Not a great deal, really. I’ve been busy working.
Foxy: Really?
George: Or, just trying not to watch the television in case there’s another nasty piece, you know, coming up. But, no, actually, I’ve been watching a little less television of late, because I haven’t been smoking the wacky baccy okay, so even though it’s legal now.
Foxy: Yeah, exactly, just in time.
George: I know! They make it legal, they make it legal, just in time for me to give it up.
Foxy: Let’s talk about Ms. Dynamite, because, well, we haven’t talked about her on air yet and I know you’re a big fan of hers. I’m about to play the new song of hers.
George: Yeah, I think she’s wicked, I think it’s the, the best lyrics I’ve heard from anybody in a while. Let alone the fact that she’s only, what 19 or 20. So, I’m very impressed with her, I think she’s got a great voice, fantastic lyrics, I like what’s she trying to say. I think she’s wicked.

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